Shiva Tattva - HH Bhakti Rasamrita Swami Maharaj
Step#1
Narendra Modi will not personally build a Jail in Delhi. He will not carry the bricks, put water etc. No. He will handover the task of building the Jail to somebody in his Govt.
Similarly Krishna has to build a Jail (Material world). But he is not interested at all. He is Lila Purushottama -- he is 24x7 busy in his pastimes.
So what will he do then? He expands himself as Mahavishnu to create and maintain the Material world.
Step#2
Maha-Vishnu desiring to create material world glances at Ramadevi who then expands as Maya (Durga). Maha-vishnu then glances at Maya and impregnates living entities like us. That's all he deoes. He just glances. He does not TOUCH her. Just like Modi does not want to touch bricks to build a Jail.
Step#3
But Krishna realizes that the Material World needs a father, needs his hands on involvement. So he then decides to TOUCH Maya and when he does that he becomes Lord Shiva.
Krishna is like the MILK. When MILK touches some bacteria it becomes Curd. Similarly when Krishna touches MAYA he becomes Shiva.
स्टेप 1
नरेंद्र मोदी व्यक्तिगत तौर पर दिल्ली में जेल नहीं बनाएंगे. वह ईंटें नहीं उठाएंगे, पानी आदि नहीं डालेंगे। नहीं। वह जेल बनाने का काम अपनी सरकार के किसी व्यक्ति को सौंप देंगे।
उसी प्रकार कृष्ण को एक जेल (भौतिक संसार) का निर्माण करना होगा। लेकिन उन्हें इसमें कोई दिलचस्पी नहीं है. वह लीला पुरूषोत्तम हैं - वह चौबीसों घंटे अपनी लीलाओं में व्यस्त रहते हैं।
तो फिर वह क्या करेंगे? वह भौतिक संसार का निर्माण और रखरखाव करने के लिए स्वयं को महाविष्णु के रूप में विस्तारित करते है।
चरण दो
महा-विष्णु भौतिक दुनिया बनाने की इच्छा रखते हुए रमादेवी पर नज़र डालते हैं जो फिर माया (दुर्गा) के रूप में विस्तारित होती हैं। महा-विष्णु फिर माया पर नज़र डालते हैं और हमारे जैसे जीवों से गर्भवती कर देते हैं। वह बस इतना ही बताता है। वह बस इतना ही करते है. वह उसे नहीं छूता. जैसे मोदी जेल बनाने के लिए ईंटों को छूना नहीं चाहते.
चरण#3
लेकिन कृष्ण को एहसास है कि भौतिक दुनिया को एक पिता की जरूरत है, उसकी भागीदारी की जरूरत है। इसलिए वह फिर माया को छूने का फैसला करते है और जब वह ऐसा करते है तो वह भगवान शिव बन जाता है।
कृष्ण दूध के समान हैं। जब दूध किसी बैक्टीरिया को छूता है तो वह दही बन जाता है। इसी प्रकार जब कृष्ण माया को छूते हैं तो वह शिव बन जाते हैं।
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Notes by Aditya Tripathy-
Shiva Tattva - HH Bhakti Rasamrita Swami Maharaj
kṣīraṁ yathā dadhi vikāra-viśeṣa-yogāt
sañjāyate na tu tataḥ pṛthag asti hetoḥ
yaḥ śambhutām api tathā samupaiti kāryād
govindam ādi-puruṣaṁ tam ahaṁ bhajāmi
--CC Madhya 20.310
Translation--
“ ‘Milk changes into yogurt when mixed with a yogurt culture, but actually it is constitutionally nothing but milk. Similarly, Govinda, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, assumes the form of Lord Śiva [Śambhu] for the special purpose of material transactions. I offer my obeisances at His lotus feet.’
Lord Shiva is very important to us, and when we indulge in the glorification katha of Lord Shiva, it is very beneficial to our devotion.
This sloka is taken from brahma sanhita which establishes the relationship between Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva
Question - Is Shiva God or not ? Yes, No or Don't Know
Yogurt is milk or not ? Yes, No, Don't Know
Yogurt is Milk - It is made from milk only.
Yogurt is not Milk - When milk changes, it becomes yogurt. Yogurt has different form than milk.
Difference is only a drop of sourness.
Both are correct statement.
This is what lord Brahma says in brahma sanhita.
vikāra-viśeṣa-yogāt sañjāyate -
When there is Vikar/Transformation in Milk.
tataḥ pṛthag - It is same and it is different also.
Important Note -
Milk becomes curd, then there is no milk. But it doesn't mean when Krishna expands as Lord Shambu, he is not there. He is still there.
Trigunatit - Lord Krishna is above 3 gunas of material nature. He never touches these 3 gunas
Lord Shiva being an expansion of Lord Krishna, touches the 3 gunas of material nature.
This is the only difference.
If we consider Lord Shiva as completely isolated and standalone from Lord Krishna, it is Aparadha towards Lord Shiva and Lord Krishna both.
Hence we should understand the similarity and difference carefully.
It is not necessary that devotees of Lord Shiva become devotees of Lord Krishna, but if one thinks Lord Shiva is different -
Devotees of Lord Shiva are called "Shaivas", Devotees of Lord Krishna are called "Vaishavas"
When Nityanand Prabhu saw Shaivas and Vaishavas fighting, he started laughing.
A person who has truly understood the principles of Vaishnavism will never make difference between Shiva and Krishna.
Jad Vastu - doesn't have any chetna
Chetan Vastu - has chetna
Chetan Vastu makes use of Jad Vastu to do it's things.
Atma/Soul - Sat + Chit + Anand - Brahma Tattva
Brahma/chetan Tattva never gets destroyed not changed.
Aham Brahmasmi - doesn't mean we are god
We all are Anu-brahma, but Krishna is Param-Brahma
These are categorisations in Brahma-Tattva
Based on categorisation, a soul gets its body
The most tiny particle of Brahma is atma/soul.
नित्योऽनित्यानां चेतनश्चेतनानाम्
एको बहूनां यो विदधाति कामान् ।
तमात्मस्थं येऽनुपश्यन्ति धीराः
तेषां शान्तिः शाश्वती नेतरेषाम् ॥
--Katha Upanishad 2.2.13
Translation-
There is One who is the eternal Reality among non-eternal objects, the one truly conscious Entity among conscious objects and who, though non-dual, fulfils the desires of many. Eternal peace belongs to the wise, who perceive Him within themselves-not to others.
Srila Prabhupada has taken example of different types of bulbs.
Different bulbs are of different sizes, power consumption and light.
Various expansions of Lord Krishna through his own inner potency - Vishnu Tattva
Who are we - Jiva Tattva
Where is Lord Shiva comes in this lineage?
Is Lord Shiva Vishnu Tattva or Jiva Tattva?
Lord Shiva is purely not Jiva Tattva or Vishnu Tattva, he is of a different Tattva
He is Shiva Tattva. He has a standalone position.
There is another Tattva - Shakti Tattva - Supreme - Radharani
Gunas of Bhagwan Vishnu -
Ananta Gunas. 64 Important Gunas
Sanatan Goswami has said -
Ananta Krishne re guna Chousathi Pradhan
Ek ek guna suni judaye Bhakta kaan
Jivesvete vasantpi bindu bindu tvaya kwachit,
Paripurna tvayabhapi tatreva purushottameva
All gunas exist in the supreme personality of Godhead in their full nature and potency. Like ananta Sagar.
In jiva Tattva they exist in the form of tiny droplets (which can not be even seen), that too sometimes.
At max, 50 gunas can appear in a jiva Tattva, in different permutations and combinations. That is also extremely rare.
Vishnu Tattva - 60 gunas (10 extra gunas as compared to Jiva Tattva)
Sri Krishna has 4 extra gunas as compared to Vishnu Tattva
How much gunas Lord Shiva has?
Lord Shiva has 55 guna
Girishadyeshu - Lord Shiva and entities of Shiva Tattva - 55 guna
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu has said--
Sada swaroop sampraptah
Sarvagyon nitya nutanah
Sachitananda sandrahanga
sarva siddhi nishedhitah
Sada swaroop sampraptah - One who never changes and is always sthir in his own swaroop
What is the Swaroop of Jiva -
Jive ra Swaroop hoye Krishnere nitya dasa
Sarvagyon - He who knows everything, regardless of time, place and circumstances
nitya nutanah - The one who is always eternally fresh and new. Never gets old. His body is transcendental, not material.
Sachitananda sandrahanga - One who body is Sat Chit Anand in dense form
Our soul is sat chit Anand, but body is material
sarva siddhi nishedhitah - One who eternally has all types of Siddhis in their true natures.
5 unique Gunas of Lord Shiva -
Lord Narayan has 5 more gunas than Lord Shiva
Lord Krishna has 4 more Gunas than Narayan
Above all these knowledge, if one honestly does hare Krishna mahamantra, that can be sufficient.
Lord Krishna selects Lord Shiva to perform very special designated task in material world.
From Shambhu, comes Shiva, Rudras.
Lord Shiva primary task in this material world is destruction.
Lord Brahma - Jiva Tattva
For destruction Task - Tamo guna is required
For construction Task - Rajo guna is required
For maintaince Task - Sat guna is required
E.g., Marriage can be created and destroyed easily. Difficult is to maintain.
Hence Lord Krishna in his expands in form of Vishnu for maintaining this material world.
Guna Avatars -
Nataraj - Tandav dance of Lord Shiva
Destruction is important in material world so as to maintain the dukhalayam characteristic feature of this material world.
Otherwise if there will be no destruction, this material world will become sashwatam.
Lord Shiva maintains the Ashaswatam status of this material world, through destruction. This is very important Seva Lord Shiva does in this material world.
Lord Shiva delivers Tamo guni people - Bhootnath (entities who do not have any type of body or gati )
Lord Shiva is so powerful and karunamaye that he delivers bhoots from their most fallen stages. Gives them shelter. lord Shiva is bholenath.
Lord Shiva is Ashutosh - He becomes satisfied and Happy with very minimal efforts of Seva
There is always a shiv ratri on every Krishna pakhsya chaturdashi
Like lord Krishna becomes satisfied by offering tulsi, Lord Shiva gets satisfied by offering bel leaves.
Lord Shiva constant takes the holy name of Lord Ram.
Lord Shiva tells Mata Parvati -
राम रामेति रामेति रमे रामे मनोरमे।
सहस्रनाम तत्तुल्यं रामनाम वरानने॥
– श्रीरामरक्षास्तोत्रम्
Translation--
By meditating on "Rama Rama Rama" (the Name of Rama), my Mind gets absorbed in the Divine Consciousness of Rama, which is Transcendental. The Name of Rama is as Great as the Thousand Names of God (Vishnu Sahasranama).
The Ram referred here - Lord Sankarshan
One who constantly takes Holy name, is a devotee. This establishes that Lord Shiva is one of the Greatest devotee.
Another important Seva of Lord Shiva -
सर्वयोनिषु कौन्तेय मूर्तय: सम्भवन्ति या: ।
तासां ब्रह्म महद्योनिरहं बीजप्रद: पिता ॥
--BG 14.4
Translation-
It should be understood that all species of life, O son of Kuntī, are made possible by birth in this material nature, and that I am the seed-giving father.
Then Lord Krishna is actual father or Lord Shiva ?
Lord Krishna - Supreme Father
Lord Shiva - Representative Father
Lord Shiva renders the Seva of being Representative Father of all living entities, because lord Krishna never touches Maya.
This way, all the 84 lakh types of species in living entities are created in this material world.
Srila Prabhupada ki Jai
Notes by Bipasha Aich Mataji -
Hare Krishna prabhuji
Dandvat pranam 🙇🏻♀
Points which I noted
1. Lord Shiva is the top most devotee of Lord Krishna. He is the topmost Vaishnava
2. He is the guna avatar of Krishna
3. Lord Shiva comes from Krishna and not vice versa
Lord Shiva
Lord Shiva is the representative of Tamo guna
4. Lord Shiva is different and at the same time non different from Lord Krishna like curd is same and different from milk
Shiva is different from Krishna in terms of quantity
5.There are main 3 tattvas:
• Vishnu tattva
•Shiva tattva
• Jiva tattva
Shiva comes in between Vishnu tattva and Jiva tattva
Vishnu tattva means narayana and his avatars like vaman dev, narsimha avatar etc.
Jiva tattva means living entities including brahma dev
And shiva tattva means shambhu/shiva/rudra
3. Supreme personality of godhead Krishna have 64 guna
All Vishnu tattva have 60 gun and Jiva tattva have 50 gun
While Shiva have 55 gun
Since we all come from Krishna we have his 50 gunas in very minute quantity and at a time 1 gun in very minute quantity shows up
**Shiva has 55 gunas in very very high quantity compared to jiva but in minute quantity compared to Krishna*
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6. 5 extra qualities in Shiva are
a. He always remains in his real swarup that is Krishna's nitya das
b.He knows everything- sarvagya
c. He always remains new / young never changes - nitya nutanah
d.His body is also Sat chit anand
e. He have all yoga siddhis
7. 3 main sevas of Shiva:
a. Destroys the world (this material world)
b. He delivers the fallen souls even the souls who are wandering without body
c.He also helps in creation
In material world living entities manifests with the help of maya ( durga devi) she is wife of lord shiva
The seed giving father is Krishna but he never comes in contact with maya and Shiva is *Pratinidhi pita*
8. So we should respect Shiva as much as Krishna
हरे कृष्ण प्रभुजी
दंडवत प्रणाम 🙇🏻♀
जो बिंदु मैंने नोट किये:
1. भगवान शिव भगवान कृष्ण के सबसे बड़े भक्त हैं। वे सर्वोच्च वैष्णव हैं
2. वे कृष्ण के गुण अवतार हैं
3. भगवान शिव कृष्ण से आते हैं, न कि इसके विपरीत
4. भगवान शिव भगवान कृष्ण से भिन्न हैं और साथ ही समान् भी, जैसा की दही दूध से
शिव जी गुणो के मामले मे कृष्णा से भिन्न है
5. मुख्य 3 तत्व हैं:
• विष्णु तत्व
• शिव तत्व
• जीव तत्व
शिव विष्णु तत्व और जीव तत्व के बीच में आते हैं
विष्णु तत्व का अर्थ है नारायण और उनके अवतार जैसे वामन देव, नरसिंह अवतार आदि।
जीव तत्व का अर्थ है ब्रह्मा देव सहित जीवित प्राणी
और शिव तत्व का अर्थ है शंभु/शिव/रुद्र
3. भगवान कृष्ण के सर्वोच्च व्यक्तित्व में 64 गुण हैं
सभी विष्णु तत्व में 60 गुण हैं
और जीव में 50 गुण हैं
जबकि शिव में 55 गुण होते हैं चूँकि हम सभी कृष्ण से आते हैं इसलिए हमारे पास उनके 50 गुण बहुत कम मात्रा में होते हैं और एक समय में 1 गुण बहुत कम मात्रा में प्रकट होता है **शिव में 55 गुण जीव की तुलना में बहुत अधिक मात्रा में होते हैं लेकिन कृष्ण की तुलना में बहुत कम मात्रा में*
6. शिव में 5 अतिरिक्त गुण हैं:
a. वे हमेशा अपने वास्तविक स्वरूप में रहते हैं जो कृष्ण का नित्य दास है
b. वे सब कुछ जानते हैं- सर्वज्ञ
c. वे हमेशा नए/युवा रहते हैं कभी नहीं बदलते - नित्य नूतनः
d. उनका शरीर भी सत् चित् आनंद है e. उनके पास सभी योग सिद्धियाँ हैं
7. शिव की 3 मुख्य सेवाएँ:
a. संसार (भौतिक संसार) का नाश करते हैं
b. वे पतित आत्माओं का उद्धार करते हैं, यहाँ तक कि उन आत्माओं का भी जो बिना शरीर के भटक रही हैं।
c.वे सृष्टि में भी सहायता करते हैं। भौतिक जगत में जीव माया (दुर्गा देवी) की सहायता से प्रकट होते हैं। वे भगवान शिव की पत्नी हैं। बीज देने वाले पिता कृष्ण हैं, लेकिन वे कभी माया के संपर्क में नहीं आते और शिव *प्रतिनिधि पिता* हैं।
8. इसलिए हमें शिव का उतना ही सम्मान करना चाहिए जितना कृष्ण का।
Shiva Tattva
Because Lord Śiva is nothing but Kṛṣṇa's functional body, we should therefore offer respects to Lord Śiva. - SP